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Following their first album, Dave Tucker (Guitar, Electronics), Pat Thomas (Piano & Keys), Thurston Moore (Guitar), and Mark Sanders (Drums & Percussion) decided to “guess again.”

In March 2020, Tucker organized this group of musicians for an improvised performance at London’s Cafe Oto on a successful “educated guess.” Organized around a shared appreciation for improvisation and experimentation, that show resulted in the release of a two volume set.

The first volume is a spontaneous performance, layering guitars over complex, scattered percussive arrangements and punctuating the noise with distinctive electronic manipulation.

This new volume, Educated Guess, Vol. 2 EP, the second set from the same Cafe Oto show, kicks in with a more acoustic spirit and special emphasis on Pat Thomas’s stellar and unmanipulated piano.

Demonstrating their different backgrounds, UK improvised music heroes Thomas and Sanders, already on a few 577 Records’ releases, join forces with UK-based guitarist Tucker (a longtime collaborator with The Fall, Dudu Pukwana, Louis Moholo) and Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth, to create something inventive and bold, pushing the boundary of noise music towards a lush, dissonant electronica.

This experimental project, Educated Guess, Vol. 2, is now available in both CD and digital formats


released May 6, 2022

Dave Tucker - Guitar and Electronics
Pat Thomas - Piano & Keys
Thurston Moore - Guitar
Mark Sanders - Drums & Percussion

Recorded March 4, 2020 by Paul Skinner at Cafe Oto, London
Mixed and mastered by Jeremy Loucas at Sear Sound, New York City

Image painted live by Gina Southgate © artistginasouthgate.com
Graphic design by Sergio Vezzali

All pieces spontaneously improvised by Dave Tucker (PRS), Pat Thomas (PRS), Thurston Moore (BMI administered by Kobalt), Mark Sanders (PRS)

577 Records is an independent record label based in Brooklyn, New York operating since 2001

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577 Records is proud to be celebrating its 22 year anniversary. The label has been producing music since 2001 and has released albums featuring the work of artists from New York and around the world.

The name comes from the address of the house where these concerts first took place (577 Fifth Avenue, Brooklyn, New York).

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